Owen and Jason talk about latkes, tea time, and hosting Christmas dinner. Then Jason interviews photographer and punk musician Alexis Van Billiard about moving home, finding a new self, and shouting Bikini Kill songs. Plus our podcast recommendation of the week is SRSLY WRONG.

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