Shelley Heck keeps up with the Joneses, Anne and Dave, in this episode to ask them questions regarding leadership... the conversation ends up diving into all other aspects of life in this candid interview. Can you believe this is Anne Jones' first time on her own podcast? Listen in as Anne and Dave talk about the reason behind starting Abode, their biggest failures and the general marital banter that only comes from working together with your spouse. 

Books mentioned in the podcast: 

'The Precious Present' - Spencer Johnson

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