In this episode, we discuss why a world without immigration detention -- that is, the incarceration of non-citizens for immigration purposes -- is possible.

Julia Bugiel of the Policy Options podcast discusses the history and reality of Canada's immigration detention regime with Stephanie Silverman, Harsha Walia, Souheil Benslimane and Sharry Aiken.

We then turn to an interview with lawyer and writer Petra Molnar, who unpacks the legal workings of immigration detention and why abolition is necessary.