Deana Lewis chats with Beth Richie and Alisa Bierria about the historical context and motivations behind their influential books that have been informed by and inform abolition feminism. Emphasizing practice as a lead to theory, both authors discuss the importance of their decades long on-the-ground work in the anti-violence movement, the struggle against anti-Black racism and the defense of criminalized survivors as a long arc towards freedom. They also reflect on their shared grounding in faith as necessary to remaining steady along the ever-changing pathway to liberation. 

List of references mentioned in this episode

Incite! Women & Trans People Against Violence

Critical Resistance

Arrested Justice

Abolition. Feminism. Now. 

Compelled to Crime

Abolition Feminisms Vol. 1 

Abolition Feminisms Vol. 2

Social Justice: Special Issue: Reimagining Community Accountability in Theory and Practice, 37(4) by Rojas Durazo, A., Bierria, A., & Kim, M. (2010). 

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