Dr. Sooka is in conversation with Thembi Nkadimeng and her lawyer Moray Hathorn on the journey they have walked together to get to this point where we have a trial date for when the trial of South Africa's death squad will begin in July this year.

Thembi's father died, her brother died, all of them pursuing this journey and her mother is now quite ill. Also, the lawyers hardly ever get interviewed and Moray has his own story to tell.

Guest: Thembi Nkadimeng - President | South African Local Government Association (SALGA)

Guest: Moray Hathorn - Human Rights Lawyer | Webber Wentzel