On this episode of Off the Clock, I’m joined by my pal Adam, my former accountant, a dude who inspires me in everything he does, and a fellow Rad enthusiast. Here’s some of what we talk about:

First Question: Can you pinpoint the moment where you thought to yourself ‘I can’t do this anymore. I need to change careers?’”

• how the inspiration of a mid-life career change didn’t actually come from him, it came from his wife and her feeling that God talked to her about it
• how damn good Adam was as an accountant, but why it was unfulfilling and why he ultimately pursued a career as a firefighter
• an actual story of a business treating an employee/partner right, which stands in contrast to so many stories about business today
• Adam shares a devastating story of disappointment and pain that I’ve never heard him tell before
• let’s say he doesn’t make this life change, how does he picture his life turning out? what does the other side of the Sliding Doors moment look like?
• uh oh, it sounds like we’re “wife guys,” but not in that lame toxic way. we just enjoy the companionship of our wives as both partners and friends
• taking your whimsy seriously – see: our Beirut tournament, the attached photo of Adam’s ridiculously good looking family, and being silly with your kids
• Adam’s insights into why his kids are cool and still close with he and his wife
• we discuss our friendship origin story and our shared superpower of pulling movie quotes at lightning speed
• what the realities of the lifestyle of a firefighter are like
• one more time for everyone in the back: connect with your friends over the phone, not just through goofy Instagram reels sent back and forth!

Find Adam on Instagram.

Theme song by Sorry Sweetheart.

Logo by Nebulus Visions.

Produced by Deft Communications.

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Recorded on the front porch of my house.