Over the course of this historic pandemic period that has now engrained itself into our definitions of normalcy, sometimes it feels like all we can do is watch the events of the world from the metaphorical passenger seat. Whether we are talking about the damage that has been done to the global live arts and culture industries, or the social events happening within our societies that cannot be ignored, it can be easy to feel like we are just an unwitting passenger on this journey of uncertainty. How can we take a primary position of action in the middle of all of this? Join me as I sit down with Dylan Gutierrez, a principal dancer with the Joffrey Ballet, and co-founder and director of Action Lines, a new ballet company that Dylan helped create. We discuss how in the middle of so much chaos, Dylan was able to take a position of action within the arts world, and the potential of his new company to redefine how we see the arts. Please enjoy.