Betrayal is a complicated act of “deliberate disloyalty” that can shock and unravel the fabric of any relationship. But when an intelligence officer is caught working for the other side, the damage is amplified - shattering the hard-won trust among colleagues and spy agencies that’s essential to doing effective intelligence work. The reasons why an officer might defect, however, can vary widely and have implications of their own.

Join Jack and Julia for a colorful conversation about what motivated historic double agents like Kim Philby and Aldrich “Rick Ames” to defect, and the consequences of their betrayal.

On this episode we’ll discuss:

• Why the famous British intelligence officer Kim Philby chose to defect and how he managed to get away with it for so long
• Jack’s take on the motivations of fellow CIA officer Rick Ames – including personal insights as to why Ames defected
• The dangerous impact of high-level intelligence betrayals on both individual lives and global operations