In this installment of our series, "Actual Conversations with Actual People," in which our host has conversations with actual, real interviewees, we'll hear from journalist Jared Holt (@jaredlholt). He writes about the culture of the extreme far right-wing thinkers on the internet. His work is featured at RightWingWatch.com and he hosts the @shtpostpodcast. We'll also play one of our patented field recordings; one that is pertinent to Jared's work. It features two women who wish to counter the Proud Boys movement. Credits: Writing and performances by Betty Mattei and Christine Wallden. Executive producer, head writer, and editor is Jon Ehrens. Theme music by Other Colors.