In this episode, Jay talks to author Amy Dresner about her personal struggles, as well as the overlap between all addictions.   

In Season 4, Jay Casale (formerly 375lbs, full of anxiety, depression and OCD) and Michael Buckley(Certified Personal Trainer full of existential dread) explore ten of their favorite interviews from the first three seasons of the Lighter Side ( a show about weight loss, addiction, recovery and mental health...but you know...funny)

Original, Full-Length Episode can be found here.

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