Special guest Forrest Palmer joins us to discuss a whole lotta collapse collapse collapse. In the first segment, we riff on Trump getting the 'rona and the recent presidential debates. In the second segment, we do a reading of Indi Samarajiva's essay I Lived Through Collapse. America Is Already There., and discuss the implications of the text, including the fact that we are currently living in a collapsed society in the United States.

00:00 - 02:05: Intro

02:05 - 28:03: Trump gets 'rona, Presidential Debates

28:03 - 1:39:26: I Lived Through Collapse. America Is Already There

- Intro and transition features audio from Trump's Twitter, the song The Final Countdown by Europe, and audio from Rocky 4.

- The outro features audio from Brent Terhune's video "Trump Got Covid."

- We read Indi Samarajiva's essay I Lived Through Collapse. America Is Already There.