In this episode of Semaphore Uncut, we talk to Vuk Gojnic. Vuk is Squad Lead for container and cloud-native engine at Deutsche Telekom Technik. Vuk describes how his internal engineering team is bringing Cloud Native infrastructure to the 200,000 person telecom giant. We discuss a number of technical challenges. We also address the issue of measuring the success of an internal engineering team. And we discuss the difficulty of hiring and training cloud-native specialists. 

Key takeaways:

• Cloud-native in telcos - not straightforward
• Key principles for cluster management: declarative, immutable
• Leveraging existing IaaS using Cluster API
• Using Flux/GitOps Toolkit
• How to succeed with internal engineering
• Large scale, small team using GitOps
• Partnerships and education to access cloud-native talent
• The road ahead

About Semaphore Uncut
In each episode of Semaphore Uncut, we invite software industry professionals to discuss the impact they are making and what excites them about the emerging technologies.