In this episode, we hear from Notafictionalmum, an adoptive mum, Tia Brown, a mum through egg donation, and surrogacy dads Shaun Thomas and Michael Johnson-Ellis - not together, I should add.

Each of them has built their family through a different route - adoption, egg donation and surrogacy - and they share their experiences with honesty and openness.

Together, their stories offer insight into the many different ways families can be created, and the challenges, decisions and joys that come with these alternative paths to parenthood.

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