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In this episode, we speak with Adrienne Tan, Co-Founder of Australian product management consultancy Brainmates and Leading the Product conference. We discuss how the roles of service design and product management work together within organisations.

Also joining us on this podcast is Martin Dowson, Head of Design Futures for Lloyds Bank in the UK and Mark Catanzariti a service designer for Telstra in Australia.

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