If you're not selling something to people while they’re out living life… what are you even doing?

In this episode of The Checkout, John, Zoe, and Bart dive into how brands can break out of the DTC echo chamber and actually stand out—through physical experiences, creative retail, and lo-fi entertainment. From coffee shops with sandboxes to vending machines in front yards, we explore all the ways brands can drive sales outside of Meta ads.

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⏱️ Chapters:

00:00 – Intro: Coffee shops, sandboxes, and dad RC culture

05:00 – Building brands through experiential retail

12:30 – Creative ways to get into physical retail

20:00 – Innovation vs. repositioning in DTC

35:30 – Social shows and customer-based content

45:00 – Marketing ideas that come from thinking

55:00 – When vacation = better ideation

1:10:00 – Wrap-up: Lazy marketing vs. original thinking

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Zoe Kahn

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Bart Szaniewski

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