It’s the first episode of 2024 and to mark the occasion Izzy and Anna interview Liv Gravil – painter, printmaker, and poet. Returning to Daisy Laing Gallery, they discuss the themes of Liv’s solo show ‘The Upworld’ including caves, mining, other-worldly spaces, anxious landscapes, the atomic priesthood, and the transitory space between the up and the down. The film referenced is ‘Into Eternity’ by Michael Madsen and the artists mentioned are Trevor Paglen, Suzanne Treister, Lawren Harris, and Charlotte Prodger. To see images of ‘The Upworld’ and to read the accompanying text, visit Liv’s website livgravil.cargo.site. You can also see more of their work on Instagram @livgravil, and Daisy Laing can be found at @daisylainggallery. Music: Ketsa, Still Room On The Night Train available at https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Ketsa