The Adversarial Podcast

Adversarial Podcast Ep. 25 – From CISOs to Entrepreneurs, Trump changes to Biden's Cyber EOs, banks ask SEC to drop disclosure requirements


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00:00 Intro

04:15 Our journeys from CISOs to Entreprenuers

23:48 Trump changes Biden's Cyber EOs

28:40 States rebuff proposed federal ban on AI laws

36:43 Vanta bug exposes customers' data to other customers

49:12 SentinelOne outage

52:53 Banking groups ask SEC to drop incident disclosure requirements

1:00:37 Cybersecurity teams generate average $36M in business growth

1:03:50 Cybersecurity Companies Want to Go Public. The Market Isn’t Letting Them

Trump Cybersecurity Fact Sheet President Trump announced a reprioritization of U.S. cybersecurity efforts, shifting away from prior frameworks and emphasizing national defense and economic resilience. https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/06/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-reprioritizes-cybersecurity-efforts-to-protect-america/

Vanta Bug Exposed Customer Data A software flaw in Vanta's platform briefly exposed sensitive compliance data between customers. https://techcrunch.com/2025/06/02/vanta-bug-exposed-customers-data-to-other-customers/

SentinelOne Outage A major backend outage at SentinelOne disrupted security operations for numerous customers. https://apple.news/AuaqeFPP8QUyoOwuAwvRBkA

States Push Back on Federal AI Law Ban U.S. states are resisting a federal proposal to ban state-level AI regulation, citing sovereignty and innovation concerns. https://www.wsj.com/articles/states-rebuff-proposed-federal-ban-on-ai-laws-6dde3ce6?mod=procyber_lead_pos1&tpl=cs

Banking Groups Oppose SEC Cyber Rule Banking associations urged the SEC to drop mandatory cyber incident disclosure rules, citing risk to financial stability. https://ecency.com/hive-167922/@justmythoughts/banking-groups-ask-sec-to

Cybersecurity Teams “Drive $36M in Growth” A report claims cybersecurity teams deliver $36M in business value annually—an assertion met with industry skepticism. https://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/news/cybersecurity-teams-business-growth/

Cybersecurity IPO Market Frozen Despite strong interest, cybersecurity companies are unable to go public due to investor hesitation and market volatility. https://www.wsj.com/articles/cybersecurity-companies-want-to-go-public-the-market-isnt-letting-them-60bfe663

Hosts:

  • Jerry Perullo (Founder, https://adversarial.com/)
  • Sounil Yu (Founder, https://www.knostic.ai/)
  • Mario Duarte (Founder, stealth startup)

Producer: Tillson Galloway (https://tillsongalloway.com)

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