In this episode, author-journalist Jason Fagone discusses the relatively unknown cryptographer Elizebeth Friedman. Fagone illuminates Friedman's remarkable achievements in codebreaking, her marriage to NSA "founder" William Friedman, her work at Riverbank Labs, and many other hidden aspects of her outstanding "in the shadows" life assisting the nation. Recorded 16 Mar 2021.  Interviewer: Deborah Bonanni, AFIO board member and former NSA Chief of Staff. Host: James Hughes, AFIO President and former CIA Operations Officer.