In this episode Jeffrey and Kelly talk about the conversations Kelly has had with hundreds of dying people at the end of their lives. Because so many common themes have been presented by the dying, we feel they can apply to the majority of situations whether an expected or unexpected death occurred. We are each worthy of our grief...and even moments of joy. Our loved ones want us to continue living in their honor.

A note on our production: We mentioned our new podcast recording equipment, so here it is -- the RodeCaster Pro. Here's Jeffrey with the setup at Studio B in Chicago.