The final round of talks to hammer out the detail of a Global Plastics Treaty opened in Geneva in early August – and almost two weeks later collapsed with no agreement at all, due in large part to the blocking tactics employed by a handful of petrostates and a multitude of lobbyists working to safeguard corporate fossil fuel interests.

To discuss what went wrong in Geneva and what the way forward for a plastics treaty might look like now, in this episode EIA Ocean Campaign Lead Chris Dixon talks with Senior Press & Communications Officer Paul Newman.