In this episode of Civil Conversations, Liz and John unpack the recent Democratic primary in New York City, highlighting the unexpected rise of Zoran Mamdani and what it signals for the city’s political future. They reflect on the shifting landscape of local politics, the power of grassroots engagement, and the tension between visionary platforms and the realities of real-world implementation.

The conversation also explores the risks of growing political polarization, the need for thoughtful transition planning within city agencies, and what kind of leadership New York truly needs to bridge hopeful idealism with lasting impact.

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