In this episode, I’m joined by Giovanni Carraro, SVP of Global Strategic Alliances at Kyndryl, to unpack why that gap exists and what it really takes to close it.We’ll talk about what changes when AI systems move from analysis to autonomy, why traditional governance starts to break down, and how enterprises can make agentic AI secure, observable, and trustworthy at scale.If you’re trying to move beyond AI experiments and into real-world operations, this conversation will help you make sense of what comes next.