A Tale of Two AIs

Agents, Context, and the Future of AI Workflows with ES Consulting’s Justin Swansburg


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In this episode of A Tale of Two AIs, host Razi Raziuddin sits down with Justin Swansburg, Founder of ES Consulting and former VP of Applied AI at DataRobot, to explore how enterprises can harness the power of AI.

Justin’s  front-row seat to the evolution of AI in the enterprise gives him a unique perspective about hands-on AI strategy. He shares his firsthand stories from advising hundreds of organizations across industries—from predicting chicken survival rates to building customer churn models—and explains how the rise of agentic AI is reshaping enterprise applications.

They dive into:

  • The interplay between predictive and generative AI—and why both matter for agents

  • How AI agents can supercharge business workflows.

  • The evolving role of data scientists in an AI-first world.

  • Why tools and context are the key to making agents useful.

  • Practical advice for leaders who want to experiment, learn, and stay ahead.

Whether you’re an AI practitioner or a business leader trying to navigate the hype, this episode offers grounded insights on applying AI where it counts.

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