Muhammed Ali engages with a caller who questions his stance on Ash'aris and Maturidis. Muhammed clarifies he does not consider them disbelievers but believes they are misguided because their beliefs contradict the Quran and Sunnah. He provides examples from Fakhr al-Razi's works, arguing that Ash'ari scholars prioritize intellect over revealed texts and reject authentic hadiths. Throughout the discussion, Muhammed emphasizes following the Quran, Sunnah, and the understanding of the Salaf (early generations), while maintaining that individuals may hold mistaken beliefs without automatically falling into disbelief.

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