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AGI Is BS | Jamie Metzl's AI Prediction


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Jamie Metzl explains why he believes "AGI is BS," what artificial intelligence will actually mean for jobs, and how humanity can navigate the biggest technological transition in history.

Jamie is a leading expert on AI, genetics, biotechnology, and the future of humanity. In this conversation we discuss AGI, AI ethics, the future of work, AI education, human-centered technology, and why transparency in AI use matters more than ever.

Jamie and host Stephen McBride discuss: • Artificial general intelligence

• AI jobs and the future of work

• AI ethics and transparency

• AI as a creative partner

• The AI Ten Commandments

• Education in the age of AI

Jamie and GPT-5 co-authored The AI Ten Commandments, which you can find here: https://a.co/d/02TqUZEM

Read Jamie's Blog post on Pope Leo's AI Encyclical: https://jamiemetzl.com/pope-leos-ai-encyclical/

Learn more about Jamie at: Jamiemetzl.com

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