Security teams are buried. Alerts pile up faster than analysts can triage them. Investigations take days or weeks. By the time threats get contained, the damage is done. Meanwhile, adversaries are starting to use AI agents to find vulnerabilities at machine speed. The defense is still running at human speed. That imbalance is about to break the entire security model.

Tom Findling is CEO and co-founder of Conifers, a company building AI SOCs that don't just assist human defenders but take ownership of security investigations in real time. Tom comes from deep roots in Israeli cybersecurity and has been tracking how AI is shifting the threat landscape faster than most people realize. Anthropic's Mythos release made it clear: any 12-year-old with a thousand dollars in API tokens now has nation-state-level capabilities to uncover zero-day vulnerabilities. If attackers have that kind of power and defenders don't, the gap becomes unsurvivable.

We discuss what Tom calls the agentic blue team, a future where AI handles threat intelligence, continuous threat hunting, detection engineering, investigation, and response without waiting for human analysts to catch up. Tom explains why agents today make fewer mistakes than humans in certain tasks, why there's a double standard when AI gets something wrong, and what the role of human defenders will actually look like when machines are doing the front-line work. If you're in security, building defense tools, or trying to understand where this industry is headed, this conversation matters.