We review four clips from the Dwarkesh Patel Podcast with Satya Nadella, Microsoft's CEO. I highly recommend Dwarkesh’s show—technical & nerdy, but excellent.

Satya talks about scaffolding—the software wrapped around AI models to make them actually work.

So we speak with someone building that scaffolding: Neil McKechnie runs two AI-first startups as a CTO. 

He discusses how he orchestrates up to twelve different language models—GPT-5, Claude, Gemini, Llama, Mistral, Cohere, Perplexity. 

We discuss what it actually takes to build production systems with LLMs today—and what that reveals about the agent future we’re being pitched.

Dwarkesh's Podcast:

https://www.youtube.com/@DwarkeshPatel

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