What do you learn after running billion-dollar cloud divisions?

That it’s not where the future’s headed.

Gaurav joins me to talk about ditching legacy systems, betting on AI-native infrastructure, and building without a playbook.

Gaurav has seen every tech wave: ERP, cloud, SaaS and now AI.

It’s a rare look at what it actually takes to transition from enterprise giant to startup operator, and why the next decade will be shaped by those who build from scratch.

Raw, honest, and full of insight.