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AI: Anasuya Sengupta on Colonizing and Liberating Knowledge


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The internet is a monocrop. A plantation of knowledge in English, owned by a handful of mega corporations, built on the bones of colonial infrastructure. And we are no longer just the consumers and as ever we are the product, the training set, the data points. So who gets to imagine the future?

This week on If You Were In Charge, Sanam and Kavita sit down with Anasuya Sengupta, co-founder of Whose Knowledge?, a global multilingual campaign to centre the knowledges of marginalised communities (the minoritised majority of the world) online. Anasuya traces a direct line from the telegraph networks of the British Empire to today’s Big Tech monopolies.

But this is not just a story of extraction. Anasuya shares what it looks like when voices from the margins reimagine technology. From building sovereign language models in Bangla, Urdu and Hindi, to transforming Wikipedia so that women are no longer invisible.

The episode opens with Sanam and Kavita reflecting on the Iran ceasefire, the extraordinary Lego memes coming out of Iran, and what it means when the world is surprised that Iranians have both sophisticated technology and a sense of humour.

Anasuya Sengupta — Co-founder of Whose Knowledge?


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Timeline

  • 00:00 — Cold open: Anasuya on “plantation tech”
  • 00:26 — Intro with Sanam and Kavita
  • 00:36 — Hosts discuss the Iran ceasefire, Lego memes, and Iranian political humour
  • 07:15 — Transition to the possibilities theme and Arundhati Roy quote
  • 07:35 — Reflection on the ceasefire moment and what comes next
  • 10:30 — Discussion of Anthropic, AI containment, and Palantir
  • 12:13 — Main interview begins: Anasuya Sengupta on the internet and search
  • 14:30 — Tech solutionism and the polycrisis
  • 16:34 — Colonial history of the internet: telegraph to Big Tech
  • 20:30 — Infrastructure: who owns the message vs the messenger
  • 23:12 — “We are the training set” — AI and data extraction
  • 24:21 — Founding of Whose Knowledge? and feminist tech activism
  • 28:16 — Women’s invisibility in knowledge systems and Wikipedia
  • 33:12 — “If you were in charge” — reimagining tech from the margins
  • 35:37 — Language, plantation tech, and multilingual futures
  • 38:26 — Disability rights and imagining from the margins in
  • 40:09 — Scaling across, not scaling up
  • 43:30 — The right to refusal and feminist archives
  • 47:24 — Representation: necessary but insufficient
  • 49:38 — A growing coalition for change
  • 50:15 — Radical idea: knowledge as a commons
  • 52:59 — Outro

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    If You Were In ChargeBy Sanam Naraghi Anderlini