In this thought-provoking episode of The Work Wire, Bob Goodwin, President of Career Club, and Johnny C. Taylor, Jr., President and CEO of SHRM, break down one of the most audacious talent policies in recent memory: Shopify’s new rule that no new hires will be approved unless teams can prove that AI cannot do the job.

This isn't just a headline—it's a signal flare. The age of AI-first hiring has officially begun.

Bob and Johnny go deep on:

What this policy means for the future of work—and workers.

The nuanced role of AI as a displacer, a partner, and a performance enhancer.

Why CEOs are shifting from “encourage AI use” to “mandate AI proof.”

How HR leaders should respond when the CEO wants to follow Shopify’s lead.

Why job descriptions need to be deconstructed into tasks—and audited for automation.

The uncomfortable but necessary conversation about retaining great humans vs. hiring new ones.

And why CHROs must lead the charge in redefining not just jobs, but work itself.

This episode challenges listeners to rethink what hiring, retention, and even competency look like in an AI-integrated workplace. And it asks the uncomfortable but urgent question: Are we really preparing people—or just protecting them?

Listen now on Apple Podcasts:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-work-wire/id1724236534

Or on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/show/0B2h7zqojjLQemKTVjdpTt