In this episode, Natalie chats with Calvary Rogers — Product Manager at Google AI, musician, artist & founder of Seneca Labs. We dive into Cal’s non-traditional path into AI research, his experimentation with AI as a creative medium prior to the public release of commercial models, the importance of accessible & human-centered AI, self-hosted exhibits, the deep religious themes in his work& how they connect to our understanding of AI, and much more.