In this episode of Off the Grid on the Record, I sit down with Jace Lander, founder of ONEX Technology, who went from running a structural steel company to building some of the wildest tech I’ve seen yet. We talk about Whale Tank—a crypto “Shark Tank” style launchpad for vetted projects—and OKX, an autonomous AI red team agent that can run full-scale cyber ops on its own.

This was one of the most eye-opening conversations I’ve had on where AI, cybersecurity, and crypto are all colliding.

Show Notes

• 0:00 – How Jace went from steel to software
• 3:00 – Breaking down Whale Tank and how it flips crypto launches
• 6:30 – Rug pulls, trust, and solving real crypto pain points
• 9:45 – OKX explained: an AI that thinks like a cyber black-ops team
• 12:30 – Legal and compliance hurdles in red teaming
• 16:00 – Why the “ugliest” software sometimes wins
• 19:30 – AI agents that can spin up their own sub-agents
• 22:40 – The future: AI security vs AI-powered attacks
• 24:30 – My advice if you want to start building in this space
• 27:00 – Where to follow Jace and 1X Technology

If you want a real look at the bleeding edge of tech—crypto, AI, and cybersecurity—this is an episode you don’t want to miss.

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