🎙 MISMO Mic’d Up

Guest: Andrew Liput

Founder & CEO, Secure Insight

Episode Overview

Artificial intelligence is rapidly reshaping the mortgageindustry—but are lenders ready?

In this episode of MISMO Mic’d Up, Brian Vieaux sits downwith Andrew Liput to unpack where the mortgage industry truly stands in the AIjourney, the regulatory realities emerging at the state level, and whygovernance—not speed—will determine long-term success.

From agentic AI platforms and robo-dialers to repurchaserisk and black-box decisioning, this conversation cuts through the hype anddelivers practical guidance for lenders navigating AI adoption responsibly.

Key Discussion Topics

⚾ Where Are We in the AI Game?

AI today is programmed to “think, create, and produce”faster and more efficiently than humans—but that doesn’t eliminate lenderresponsibility.

🤖 What Is “Agentic AI”?

Andrew explains the rise of agentic AI—tools capable ofautonomous interaction that mimic human behavior.

The core question:
Can AI legally and ethically perform activities reserved for licensedindividuals?

🏛 The RegulatoryLandscape Is Forming

State regulators are beginning to issue guidance:

Upcoming guidance expected from:

Key takeaway:
There’s nothing “new” in these bulletins—but regulators are shining a spotlighton AI risk.

You can’t outsource compliance to a vendor. If AI createsharm, the lender is on the hook.

🌭 “Know What’s in theSausage”

Andrew uses a memorable analogy:

If AI is the black box that makes the sausage, you need tounderstand what’s inside.

Black-box opacity + speed + scale = amplified exposure.

💣 Speed & Scale =Accelerated Risk

AI’s greatest strength is also its biggest threat:

You can’t originate your way out of that kind of liability.

📞 The TCPA & RobocallRisk

Andrew shares a real-world example of AI robocalls offeringloan approvals without proper identification.

Concerns include:

AI dialers operating at scale without proper safeguardscould create catastrophic financial exposure.

🏢 Internal AI vs.Consumer-Facing AI

Not all AI carries the same risk.

Lower Risk:

Higher Risk:

The distinction matters.

🔐 Vendor Oversight IsCritical

The explosion of new AI vendors entering mortgage means:

Lenders must strengthen:

Loan officers entering borrower data into open AI toolscreates privacy risk most lenders haven’t fully addressed.

🎯 The One PrincipleLenders Should Anchor On

Andrew’s final advice:

Don’t compromise on oversight.

AI adoption without governance is exposure.

Why This Matters Now

The MBA Residential Board of Governors has made AI a topindustry priority. MISMO’s AI Community of Practice is working towardframeworks that help lenders establish guardrails for responsible adoption.

AI is coming—fast.
But responsible adoption requires deliberation, documentation, and discipline.

Standout Quotes

“You can’t just say, ‘The AI told me to do it.’”

“Know what’s in the sausage.”

“Speed and scale amplify risk.”

“Don’t compromise on oversight.”

Final Takeaway

AI will absolutely shape the future of mortgage lending.

But success won’t go to the fastest adopters.

It will go to the lenders who balance innovation withgovernance, oversight, and accountability.

We may be in the first inning—but the score will bedetermined by how responsibly we play the game.