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Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis unpack AI consolidation as Nvidia licenses Groq's fast inference chips and Meta buys Manus for $2 billion. Growing anti-AI sentiment over jobs, mental health, and politics emerges alongside OpenAI's high-stakes preparedness role. Finally, Jason and Jeff reflect on 2025's jagged progress and 2026's agent and surveillance shifts.

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Ben Goertzel, founder and CEO of SingularityNET, joins us to argue for an open path to AGI. We unpack what “open source” should include beyond code, how access to training data, pipelines, and compute shapes who can actually participate, and why “open weights” can still fall short. We also ask who needs convincing, what incentives could move the market, and how decentralized infrastructure fits into his vision for building advanced AI outside a handful of mega labs.

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Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis unpack OpenAI's rapid GPT-5.2 release and Image 1.5 upgrade amid its Code Red push, contrasted by Google's faster Gemini 3 Flash challenging benchmarks in reasoning and speed. Nvidia's Slurm acquisition and Nemotron 3 open models are explored for their role in agentic AI, while Disney's $1 billion OpenAI deal licensing Sora IP is weighed against its Google cease-and-desist. President Trump's executive order centralizing AI regulation federally is analyzed for tensions with state protections.

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Nick Fox is the SVP of Knowledge and Information at Google, overseeing Search, Ads, and Commerce. He returns to the AI Inside podcast seven months after our Google I/O conversation when he declared "the web is thriving." In this follow-up, we press Fox on the publisher traffic debate, whether Google will ever embrace a licensing model for news, and why the Personal Context feature announced at I/O is still delayed. We also cover AI Mode's growth to 75 million daily users, why emerging markets are adopting it faster than expected, and what Google has learned about changing search behavior.

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00:00:00 - Podcast begins

00:00:41 - Introducing Nick Fox, Google's SVP of Knowledge and Information

00:03:29 - Revisiting "The Web Is Thriving" Claim Seven Months Later

00:05:09 - Publisher Traffic Concerns and Trust in Google's Data

00:08:30 - Preferred Sources: New Feature to Boost Publisher Visibility

00:09:58 - AI Links vs. Traditional Blue Links: Quality and Purpose

00:12:57 - Jeff's Case for News APIs: Should Publishers Embrace AI?

00:16:01 - Google's Response to the News API Proposal

00:17:31 - 3,000+ Publisher Partnerships and the Traffic-First Model

00:21:53 - Advice for Publishers Wanting to Rank in AI Search

00:24:07 - AI Mode Adoption: What Seven Months of User Data Reveals

00:27:07 - Longer Queries, Deeper Exploration: How Users Are Changing

00:29:06 - Global Rollout Insights: US, India, Brazil, and Emerging Markets

00:29:28 - The Learning Curve: Why AI Search Takes Months to Adopt

00:31:11 - Younger Users Leading AI Mode Adoption

00:31:59 - "Catch Me Up" Feature: Embedding AI in New Places

00:34:17 - AI Mode Everywhere: Chrome, Workspace, and Jeff's Chromebook Plea

00:37:50 - Personal Context Update: What's Delaying the Gmail/Drive Integration

00:40:07 - Gemini 3 Pro in Search: Generative UIs and Intelligent Routing

00:43:23 - Google's AI Brand Strategy: Search, Gemini App, and Beyond

00:46:23 - If You Were Starting a Content Business Today

00:48:16 - Thank you to Nick Fox for joining the AI Inside podcast

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Juston Payne is Google's Senior Director of Product Management for XR and the product mind behind Android XR and the newly announced Project Aura. He joins the AI Inside podcast to explain how Google plans to succeed where Google Glass fell short over a decade ago. We dig into why the smart glasses market today resembles the iPhone before the App Store existed, how Google's platform approach lowers the lift for developers, and why multimodal AI makes this the right moment for XR to take off. Juston also shares a personal story about his son navigating Rome with nothing but prototype glasses. Tune in for an essential conversation about where computing is headed next.

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00:00:00 - Podcast begins

00:00:44 - Introducing Juston Payne, Google's Senior Director of Product Management for XR

00:02:13 - Why Google Sees XR as the Next Major Computing Platform

00:05:14 - Google's Ecosystem Advantage and the Developer Problem

00:09:22 - Gemini and XR: A Perfect Multimodal Pairing

00:13:17 - Google Maps and the AI Pipeline Powering Immersive Experiences

00:16:44 - The 10-Year-Old Navigating Rome with Prototype Glasses

00:18:54 - Juston Reveals His Original Google Glass Explorer Edition

00:21:59 - The Three Things Missing from Glass: Hardware, Platform, and AI

00:26:02 - Privacy, Cameras, and Cultural Acceptance

00:27:43 - The Xreal Partnership and Project Aura

00:33:04 - Thank you to Juston Payne for joining the AI Inside podcast

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Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis unpack Apple's new AI chief Amar Subramanya, ChatGPT's third birthday reflections, and how Silicon Valley is spoofing websites to train its AI agents without getting blocked by the real thing.

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Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis explore Google’s Nano Banana Pro launch and Jason's unique sit-down with the leaders of Gemini 3, Nvidia’s earnings amid AI bubble talks, Google’s TPU deal with Meta, and Warner Music’s Suno settlement. They also cover Trump’s Genesis Mission, Gmail AI concerns, Anthropic Opus 4.5, and Character AI’s age ban.

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Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis explore Google’s Gemini 3 multimodal AI with visual and interactive features, Microsoft’s AI Copilot launch across Windows, and Jeff Bezos’s new well-funded AI startup Project Prometheus focused on engineering and manufacturing.

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Microsoft is introducing Agent 365, a new control plane for managing AI agents across the enterprise. Charles Lamanna, the executive leading Microsoft’s Business Apps and Agents division, joins us to explain the ideas behind the launch and why the company believes AI workers will soon be as common as apps or devices. We explore how agents already operate inside organizations, how identity and permissions will work for autonomous systems, and how Microsoft plans to detect and govern rogue agents. If you want to understand the strategy and engineering thinking behind one of Microsoft’s biggest AI bets, this is the episode to hear.

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01:51 – Introducing Charles Lamanna

02:45 – Why Microsoft Is Launching Agent 365 at Ignite

04:37 – How AI Agents Are Already Appearing Inside Companies

06:24 – Customer Fears About Agent Autonomy and Trust

08:40 – How Builders Know When They’ve Created a True “Agent”

11:33 – How Microsoft Detects Agents That Aren’t Registered

13:43 – How Agent 365 Will Audit and Govern AI Agents

17:05 – Real-World Examples of Agents Delivering Results

19:08 – Automatic Agent Registration and Future Telemetry Signals

20:07 – Using Agent 365 in Non-Microsoft Environments

20:38 – Whether Agent 365 Becomes the Directory for All Agents

22:25 – How Agent 365 Handles Bad or Misbehaving Agents

24:10 – What a “Bad Agent” Actually Means in Practice

25:55 – What Success Looks Like After Six to Twelve Months

30:16 – First Steps for Organizations Beginning Their Agent Journey

31:00 – Closing and thanks to Charles Lamanna

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