Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis return for a deep dive into the week’s AI news. We cover Apple's new research paper exposing the illusion of AI reasoning, industry leaders' superintelligence hype and hubris, Altman’s “Gentle Singularity” vision, Ilya Sutskever’s brain-as-computer analogy, Meta’s massive superintelligence lab, LaCun and Pichai’s call for new AGI ideas, Apple’s on-device AI framework, NotebookLM’s new sharing features, pairing NotebookLM with Perplexity, Hollywood’s awkward embrace of AI tools, and the creative collision of AI and filmmaking.

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⁠0:00:00⁠⁠ - Podcast begins

⁠0:02:27⁠⁠ - Apple paper: The Illusion of Thinking: Understanding the Strengths and Limitations of Reasoning Models via the Lens of Problem Complexity

⁠0:05:50⁠⁠ - Sinofsky on the costs of anthropomorphizing LLMs

⁠0:07:34⁠⁠ - Nate Jones: Let's Talk THAT Apple AI Paper—Here's the Takeaway Everyone is Ignoring

⁠0:13:46 - Altman's latest manifesto might be worth mention in comparison

⁠0:19:33⁠⁠ - Ilya Sutskever, a leader in AI and its responsible development, receives U of T honorary degree

⁠0:25:52 - Meta Is Creating a New A.I. Lab to Pursue ‘Superintelligence’

⁠0:29:05 - Google CEO says AGI is impossible with today's tech

⁠0:33:17 - WWDC: Apple opens its AI to developers but keeps its broader ambitions modest

⁠0:39:57 - NotebookLM is adding a new way to share your own notebooks publicly.

⁠0:42:01 - I paired NotebookLM with Perplexity for a week, and it feels like they’re meant to work together

⁠0:45:26 - The Googlers behind NotebookLM are launching their own AI audio startup. Here's a sneak peek.

⁠0:50:48 - Could AI make a Scorsese movie? Demis Hassabis and Darren Aronofsky discuss

⁠0:55:05 - Luca Guadagnino to Direct True-Life OpenAI Movie ‘Artificial’ for Amazon MGM

⁠0:59:19 - Everyone Is Already Using AI (And Hiding It) “We can say, ‘Do it in anime, make it PG-13.’ Three hours later, I’ll have the movie.”

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This week on AI Inside, Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis explore Meta’s plan to fully automate ad creation and targeting by 2026, the rise of hyper-personalized ads, and the risks and rewards of letting AI take over decisions once reserved for humans. We also break down the New York Times’ landmark AI licensing deal with Amazon, the music industry’s negotiations with generative AI startups, and Google’s new app for running AI models on your phone.

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0:00:00 - Podcast begins

⁠0:05:19⁠ - Meta Aims to Fully Automate Ad Creation Using AI

⁠0:15:33⁠ - Meta plans to replace humans with AI to assess privacy and societal risks

⁠0:22:14 - Amazon and The New York Times’ AI deal signals a new wave of publisher partnerships

⁠0:29:27 - Major record labels are reportedly in licensing talks with AI firms Udio and Suno

⁠0:37:43 - Google’s brilliant new AI app might convince you to buy a more expensive phone

⁠0:45:46 - Mary Meeker's first report in four years is focused on AI

⁠0:56:23 - This Year’s Hot New Tool for Chefs? ChatGPT.

⁠1:02:57⁠ - Real TikTokers are pretending to be Veo 3 AI creations for fun, attention

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Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis are back for our weekly AI deep-dive. We cover Anthropic’s new Claude models and the “new model fatigue” problem, headline-grabbing AI blackmail tests and what they really mean, Google’s Veo 3 leap for generative video and what it means for creators, Duolingo’s AI-first shift and the jobs panic it sparked, plus a look at the “AI 2027” doomsday scenario and why it’s more fiction than fact.

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0:00:00 - Podcast begins

0:03:17 - Anthropic launches Claude 4, its most powerful AI model yet

0:11:10 - AI system resorts to blackmail if told it will be removed

0:19:49 - AI revolt: New ChatGPT model refuses to shut down when instructed

0:22:19 - Inside Google's plan to have Hollywood make AI look less doomsday

0:25:18 - Google’s Veo 3 AI video generator is a slop monger’s dream

0:29:53 - Joanna Sterns stars in WSJ Veo film

0:41:44 - Duolingo CEO Clarifies AI-First Plan After Backlash, Says AI Won’t Replace Employees

0:44:03 - Meanwhile, Axios is in a full-blown jobs panic

0:46:12 - Anthropic appoints Netflix Chairman Reed Hastings to AI startup’s board of directors

0:49:19 - Nick Clegg says asking artists for use permission would ‘kill’ the AI industry

0:54:20 - Ben Evans AI preso

1:00:38 - AI 2027

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Jason Howell sits down with Google’s Nick Fox at Google IO to reveal how AI is reinventing iconic products like Search and Maps, the surprising ways users are embracing AI Overviews and AI Mode, the challenge of balancing innovation with Google’s trademark simplicity, and what the future holds for web publishers and monetization. Jeff Jarvis joins for news discussion including Microsoft Build, and breaking news of OpenAI's big deal with Jony Ive.

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0:00:00 - Podcast begins

02:39 - Google Unveils A.I. Chatbot, Signaling a New Era for Search

10:59 - Warby Parker pops 16% on $150 million Google smart glasses partnership

21:24 - Google launches stand-alone NotebookLM apps for Android and iOS

23:12 - OpenAI is buying iPhone designer Jony Ive’s AI devices startup for $6.4 billion

30:54 - Interview: Introducing Nick Fox and his role at Google

Nick Fox’s career journey and priorities as head of Search

Reinventing Google’s core products with AI

Balancing innovation with responsibility and user trust

How AI is changing user search behavior

What users are doing with AI Overviews and AI Mode

AI’s ability to answer complex, contextual questions

Distinguishing Google Search, AI Mode, and Gemini Assistant

Personalization and privacy in AI-powered search

How Google decides which AI features go where

Maintaining simplicity as Google Search evolves

Balancing rapid AI innovation with reliability and trust

Will AI Mode become the default Google Search experience?

How AI Mode chooses and ranks web sources

AI Overviews and the impact on publishers and web traffic

Monetization strategies for AI in Google Search

Agentic AI (Project Mariner) and the future of search monetization

Closing thoughts with Nick Fox

1:11:19 - Post-interview analysis and reflections

1:15:19 - Microsoft Build news and AI agent trends

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Robert Hallock, VP and GM at Intel, joins us for a deep dive into the rise of AI PCs and why they’re more than just a buzzword. We unpack how new hardware accelerators are making smarter, faster, and more private computing possible, and why local, offline AI is about to become as essential as graphics in tomorrow’s laptops. Robert explains Intel’s ecosystem strategy, the real differences between CPUs, GPUs, and NPUs, and what it will take for AI features to reach everyone, not just creative pros but everyday users.

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Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis are back for another episode of AI Inside. We cover NVIDIA and AMD’s $10B Saudi chip deal, US-Saudi tech politics and China’s AI ambitions, AI leaders flip-flopping on regulation, copyright office drama and AI training fair use, Big Tech’s AI midlife crisis, Google’s Gemini expands to cars and wearables, scam protection for Android, ChatGPT’s impact on student learning, professors caught using AI, authenticity in AI-powered hiring, and a preview of our Intel AIPC interview coming Saturday.

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CHAPTERS:

0:03:15 - Nvidia, AMD Sell Chips to Saudi Arabia for AI Data Centers

0:08:32 - ⁠AI execs used to beg for regulation. Not anymore.⁠

0:11:46 - The Giants of Silicon Valley Are Having a Midlife Crisis Over AI

0:17:41 - Trump fires head of Copyright Office two days following report that AI training may not be fair use

0:28:27 - Audible unveils plans to use AI voices to narrate audiobooks

0:32:46 - ⁠ Gemini smarts are coming to more Android devices & Android Faithful interview with Patrick Brady, VP of Android for Cars at Google about Gemini on Android Auto

0:44:55 - The effect of ChatGPT on students’ learning performance, learning perception, and higher-order thinking: insights from a meta-analysis

0:49:53 - The Professors Are Using ChatGPT, and Some Students Aren’t Happy About It

0:55:31 - Deepfakes, Scams, and the Age of Paranoia

0:58:07 - Robert Hallock, Channel Segment GM at Intel talks about the AI PC

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Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis are back for the latest AI Inside. We cover OpenAI’s nonprofit reversal and Musk’s ongoing lawsuit, Altman’s Orb stores for iris-scanning identity, Google’s confusing new AI Mode in search, Gemini 2.5 Pro’s IO Edition and coding challenge, Amazon’s Vulcan robots with a sense of touch, Apple’s AI search comments shaking up stocks, Reddit’s new human verification rules, why admitting AI use sparks distrust at work, an AI-generated impact statement in court, and the Associated Press’ Alberta-Quebec AI blunder.

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OpenAI reverses course, says its nonprofit will remain in control of its business operations

0:12:45 - ⁠Welcome to Sam Altman’s Orb Store

0:25:38 - ⁠Google: New ways to interact with information in AI Mode

0:41:42 - ⁠Gemini 2.5 Pro Preview: even better coding performance

0:44:57 - ⁠Amazon makes ‘fundamental leap forward in robotics’ with device having sense of touch

0:49:28 - ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple to add AI search partners to Safari as Google usage falls

0:52:03 - ⁠Reddit will tighten verification to keep out human-like AI bots

0:54:20 - ⁠Being honest about using AI at work makes people trust you less, research finds

0:59:53 - ⁠AI of dead Arizona road rage victim addresses killer in court

1:05:04 - ⁠I smell AI...

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Jeff and Jason sit down with Emily Bender and Alex Hanna, co-authors of The AI Con, to unpack the myths and real-world harms behind today’s AI hype. They discuss why the term “AI” is so often misused, how Big Tech’s models can fail marginalized communities, and why smaller, community-driven AI projects can better serve local needs. The conversation also explores the pitfalls of generative tools, the challenges of democratizing art, and the urgent need for real accountability in the tech industry

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Emily M. Bender is a Professor of Linguistics at the University of Washington, renowned for her work in computational linguistics, language technology, and as co-author of the influential "Stochastic Parrots" paper.

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CHAPTERS:

00:00⁠ - Podcast begins

01:44 - Introducing Emily Bender and Alex Hanna

02:23 - Why “AI” Is Misleading: Better Terms for Today’s Tech

04:31 - What Is AI Actually Good For? Real-World Use Cases

06:29 - Hidden Data Opportunities in AI and Language Models

07:20 - Community-Driven AI: Real Benefits Beyond Big Tech

09:45 - The Thai Library Thought Experiment: Why AI Lacks Meaning

14:23 - Inside DAIR: Building Alternative AI Futures

⁠19:13 - AI and Creativity: Remixing, Music, and Fair Compensation

24:00⁠⁠ - Does AI Democratize Creativity or Homogenize Voices?

33:47 - Debunking AI Doomerism and TESCREAL: Media’s Role

40:29 - Mystery AI Hype Theater 3000: Podcast Origins and Mission

42:07 - Book Launch Details: The AI Con Release Events

45:07 - Can We Build Effective AI Guardrails?

50:30 - Synthetic Text Extruding Machine... STEM?

50:56 - Oxford Comma y/n?

51:18 - Thank you to Emily Bender and Alex Hanna for joining the AI Inside podcast

Thank you to Emily Bender and Alex Hanna for joining the AI Inside podcast

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Duolingo will replace contract workers with AI, OpenAI adds shopping to ChatGPT in a challenge to Google, researchers secretly experimented on Reddit users with AI-generated comments, and so much more on the AI Inside podcast!

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03:15 - Duolingo will replace contract workers with AI

12:36 - ⁠Duolingo More Than Doubles Courses as ‘AI-First’ Push Draws Heat⁠

15:07 - Google launches AI tools for practicing languages through personalized lessons

16:09 - Generative AI is not replacing jobs or hurting wages at all, say economists

22:53 - Prompt engineer: The Hottest AI Job of 2023 Is Already Obsolete

28:10 - Meta’s ChatGPT competitor shows how your friends use AI

37:45 - Microsoft CEO says up to 30% of the company’s code was written by AI

39:53 - Altman and Nadella, Who Ignited the Modern AI Boom Together, Are Drifting Apart

41:21 - OpenAI Adds Shopping to ChatGPT in a Challenge to Google

42:58 - Researchers secretly experimented on Reddit users with AI-generated comments

47:53 - Clip from our Interview with Emily Bender and Alex Hanna, authors of The AI Con

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Hosts Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis dive into OpenAI’s desire to buy Google Chrome, Perplexity AI’s talks with Samsung and Motorola, Google DeepMind’s claim that AI could cure all disease in a decade, and the Oscars’ decision to allow A.I.—with caveats—and more.

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CHAPTERS:

00:01:58 - OpenAI would buy Google's Chrome, exec testifies at trial

00:13:49 - Perplexity AI in Talks to Integrate Assistant Into Samsung, Motorola Phones

00:23:13 - AI could cure all disease in a decade, says Google DeepMind CEO— Perplexity’s Aravind Srinivas agrees

00:29:27 - Draft executive order outlines plan to integrate AI into K-12 schools

00:36:48 - Google just fired the first shot of the next battle in the AI war

00:49:18 - IEEE: Google Succeeds With LLMs While Meta and OpenAI Stumble

00:50:04 - Columbia student suspended over interview cheating tool raises $5.3M to ‘cheat on everything’

00:58:31 - Oscars OK the Use of A.I., With Caveats

01:01:09 - ChatGPT burns tens of millions of Softbank dollars listening to you thanking it

01:03:12 - To stop scraping, Wikipedia releases Kaggle dataset

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