In this conversation, Andrew Jenkins and Duarte Garrido from DOJO AI discuss the evolving landscape of AI in marketing. They explore the definition of AI agents, the optimism surrounding AI's role in augmenting human capabilities, and the need to rethink marketing fundamentals. The discussion highlights the challenges posed by fragmented data, the importance of building tools for challenger brands, and the integration of AI into marketing strategies.

They also touch on the evolving role of agencies, the identification of marketing pain points, and the future of marketing teams in an AI-driven world. The conversation concludes with insights on creative use cases for AI and the importance of maintaining critical thinking in marketing.