Will AI choose Bitcoin as its native money? In this episode, Cern Basher joins us to explore the powerful links between AI, Tesla, and Strategy (formerly MicroStrategy) — and how visionary leaders like Elon Musk and Michael Saylor are shaping the future of money, energy, and intelligence.

We discuss:

- How AI and Bitcoin are “two sides of the same coin”

- Why Tesla’s massive cash flow could make it a Bitcoin treasury company

- Strategy’s breakthrough with Bitcoin-backed preferred shares

- Tesla’s robotaxi and humanoid robot plans — and what they mean for investors

- Why Bitcoin is the new risk-free asset

If you’re interested in Bitcoin, AI, Tesla, corporate treasuries, or Michael Saylor’s Bitcoin strategy, this conversation connects all the dots.

00:00 Introduction: Cern Basher

01:16 Cern's Journey with Tesla and Bitcoin

03:57 Why AI rejects traditional finance and adopts Bitcoin

06:19 Strategy’s breakthrough: Bitcoin-backed preferred shares

08:04 De-risking with preferred stock vs. debt

10:07 Strive vs. Strategy: early lessons for Bitcoin treasuries

11:18 Tesla’s Bitcoin strategy and massive capital needs

15:24 When Tesla becomes a Bitcoin treasury company

17:07 How Tesla could issue Bitcoin-linked preferreds

18:39 Tesla vs. Strategy: long-term investment outlook

22:52 Key takeaways from Tesla’s shareholder meeting

25:33 Full Self-Driving progress and robotaxi rollout

27:53 Strategy’s Euro preferred & growing global reach

29:58 The rise of global Bitcoin treasury companies

33:56 Why preferred shares aren’t a Ponzi

37:18 How Bitcoin treasuries spread BTC to the world

38:36 Tesla and Strategy: visionary leaders reshaping money

42:10 Closing thoughts & where to find Cern

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