In today's episode, the guys welcome their good friend from their days at Garrett-Evangelical Theological Seminary, Constructive Theologian and Assistant Professor at the Claremont School of Theology at Willamette University, Yuki Schwartz, onto the show to talk about her work around both in the academy and in the church. Schwartz talks about the role of social justice in the work of theological reflection and how best to meet folks where they are so that religious studies don't remain in the Ivory Tower but, instead, take the lived experience of people seriously. In the second segment, Schwartz explains her area of research on the theological value of shame and the role that shame has come to play in our body politic. The three then talk about the power of shame to keep marginalized communities knowing their place in the hierarchy of the nation. As an example they talk about the actions of Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene in her efforts to shame members of the transgender community into fitting into her narrowly defined gender categories. Of course hearts will be blessed in the middle of the show and a full-on geek conversation breaks out as the three discuss WandaVision, the Marvel Comics Universe, and the Star Wars canon while on the front porch musing. We hope that you will enjoy this week's offering.