In the latest episode of "Credit Matters," Stephen Burgess (Head of Leveraged Finance, U.S. Bancorp.) joins Shankar and Bruce to discuss why high-yield bond and leveraged loan spreads are near record tights as investors lock in attractive all-in yields.

Stephen shares his view that rates may remain relatively flat for a prolonged period, how a new Fed posture could tighten financial conditions without major rate moves, and what that could mean for spreads and defaults.

They examine why defaults remain historically low (strong fundamentals, legacy low-coupon debt, and liability management exercises), how the market differentiates between BB and CCC risk, and the surge in issuance—driven by refinancings and rapidly growing AI/data-center financing with lease-backed structures and guarantees—along with key sector risks, fallen angels, and how AI may change banking workflows.

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