This week I interviewed A.J. Shapiro, also known as "Philosophical Chillin." Tune in to hear how he went all the way from Israel to making guitars for artists like Hoizer to The Creative Circus, why he memorizes rather than records great prose, and his spontaneous rapping that I still haven't gotten over. Oh, and if you want to help me win a bet, then write this man a letter (address below):

A.J. Shapiro:

instagram.com/philosophical_chillin/

1645 Woodbine Ave NE, Atlanta, GA 30317

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