Alan is back for his 3rd podcast! This time of the migration crisis at the US-Mexico border. If you dont remember who Alan Bersin is, he was the former undersecretary responsible for borders and CBP at Homeland Security during the Obama administration and served as the "Border Czar" under Bill Clinton.
If someone knows the border and migration, its Alan. He continues to consult in these issues in private/post-goverment life.

This "special" episode of the podcast was a discussion between Alan and a whole bunch of students at the ITAM. Very candid and informal, do not miss this episode.

dont forget to check out the podcast webpage at thesecurityperimer.com. you can find all the podcast episodes there as well as some other fun stuff like en entire area dedicated to russian fake news.