A flowery Blind Shovel, this one with LA-based musician Alex Pfender. We discuss his recent project Pfred, the dynamics of collaboration, music production, Sufjan, and much more.

Listen to some of Alex's solo work and collaborations:

Pfred's "Alice"

Yoya's "Fireworks"

Lauren O'Connell's "Horsefly"

Header image: Laura Kody, "Pfred", 2023