Ali worked at Philmont in the 90's, mostly in the conservation dept. The last I talked to her was a few years back when I was making a video for REI about her being a triathlete near her home in rural Alabama where she lives with her husband. At the time she had a career as an environmental scientist but she was interested in changing direction and trying out fitness coaching. Listen in as I ask her how her how that transition went, being a triathlete, working at Philmont and so much more!