Ahead of the All Blacks’ Rugby Championship opener against the Pumas in Córdoba, Martin Devlin chats with Argentine rugby journalist Frankie Deges. The pair discuss the state of both teams, the atmosphere in the host city, and the bigger picture for Southern Hemisphere rugby. Deges shares his thoughts on the tournament’s competitiveness, Argentina’s ambitions, and the significance of this year’s matches. They also touch on the changing landscape of the international calendar and what it could mean for the game.

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