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In this conversation style interview, Margo Griffith and Jeffrey Lehrer, National RTO Compliance Manager from Scouts Australia, discuss the challenges and opportunities around aligning non-formal learning to formal learning pathways for both their youth members and adult volunteers. They also discuss what youth organisations globally are doing to help participants gain recognition of transferable skills learnt through their programs, to be used as credits towards getting into the course they want or when looking for work.

Their topics of discussion include:

• 0:50 - Informal, Non-formal and Formal Learning Within Scouts Australia
• 6:55 - Evidence of Learning and the Complexity of Mapping and Alignment
• 10:02 - Building Tools for the Learner to Articulate Their Skills and Competencies
• 12:10 - The Rio Declaration on Non-Formal Learning From Global Youth Organisations
• 15:53 - Recognition of Learning Involves a Translation Piece - the Scouts Australia Example
• 20:38 - Key Solutions for Recognition of Non-formal to Formal Learning Pathways
• 25:19 - The Role of Policymakers in Recognising Non-formal Education Across All Sectors
• 34:38 - Next Steps in Creating Non-formal to Formal Pathways

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