The second episode of season 1 of Real Tal with Jeanne and Matt dives deeper into the conversation of equity by exploring the world of Special Education. Hosts Jeanne Spiller and Matt Treadway interview authors Heather Frizielle and Julie Schmidt who, along with Jeanne, co-wrote Yes We Can. This best selling book has been instrumental in reshaping mindsets around the way schools and district meets the needs of ALL learners in their classrooms. Michelle Wambach, a current principal from Arizona also joins the show to offer her experiences in reshaping her school with the mindset that ALL means ALL.