Everyone is feeling stressed right now, and that certainly includes pastors who, for nearly nine months now have been improvising their way through a new reality where, as one pastor put it, "all of the most enjoyable parts of ministry have been taken from us, leaving us with the hardest and least satisfying parts."  How do we handle that stress?  Well, I have a very special guest with me for this episode, a clinical psychologist with the same last name as mine!  Tune in for a very special episode with some helpful information on how to handle your own stress, and help others to do the same!