Welcome to our new podcast, "All Things Spiritual with Dr. Karoline Bethea-Jones and Ikechukwu Onyema. As always I am doing what I love, having candid conversations with real people, no fluff, just authentic conversation. 

Tonight my co-host and I will be speaking on the subject of Religion vs Spirituality. Hope you stick around and take a listen. We welcome your comments.

If you would like to be a guest on the Real Talk with Real People Podcast, send an email to [email protected].

Looking forward to hearing from you!