In this early-pandemic episode, Allan Liska, a senior security architect at Recorded Future discusses ransomware, why the best cybersecurity advice will almost never land you a talk at Black Hat, and why calling someone JarJar cuts way deeper than calling them a script kitty. The team also discusses Alan's path into the cybersecurity world; we knew the No Password Required tradition of atypical paths into the cyber world was safe when he started his journey with a sociology degree and a willingness to crawl under a desk.

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