The Dr. Robyn McKay Show

Allowing Vs Controlling


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In this episode, Dr. Robyn McKay introduces an ancient Catholic practice that completely reframes what meditation is actually for. Drawing from her return to Catholicism and her discovery of Ignatian meditation, she explores what it means to stop chasing outcomes in your spiritual practice and simply be with God instead.

This episode explores:

  • What Ignatian meditation is and where it comes from

  • How to use biblical imagination to insert yourself into scripture

  • Why this form of meditation offers no big aha moment

  • The difference between meditation for outcomes and meditation for communion

  • How the wellness industry keeps us chasing spiritual highs that never last

  • The Catholic practice of offering your suffering as a prayer

  • Why allowing is not passive but an active choice to make meaning

  • How Ignatian meditation differs from mindfulness and guided meditation

  • What it means to be an active participant in your own healing and spiritual growth

You have been trying to let go. What if the move is not just to release it, but to actively offer it, and trust that it has been received?

Your healing potential isn't blocked—it's simply misdirected. Understanding exactly where you are in the journey from burnout and moral injury toward identity, authorship, and calling is crucial. That's why I've created the KNOWN 90-minute Personality Intensive—to give you precise clarity on your personality and the next right steps in your healing.

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About Dr. Robyn McKay

Dr. Robyn McKay is an award-winning psychologist and authority on spiritual intelligence, informed by Catholic mysticism and counseling psychology. Her work bridges clinical rigor, personality research, and identity-level transformation.

With more than 20 years of practice and study, she is known for helping gifted, high-functioning women read burnout as information rather than failure, accurately name moral injury, reclaim original identity, and return to work as calling—the co-creative contribution they were made for.

A PhD in counseling psychology from the University of Kansas, Robyn's academic formation is rooted in vocational psychology and the psychology of gifted and talented people across the lifespan—a body of work she contributed to as co-author of the award-winning Smart Girls in the 21st Century: Understanding Talented Girls and Women (2014). That foundation extends into positive psychology, creativity research, and optimal human development, and culminates in the study of spiritual intelligence. Where mainstream wellness culture borrows loosely from spiritual concepts, Robyn draws from a more exacting source—the Catholic intellectual and mystical tradition, and the saints who mapped the interior life long before psychology had a name for it.

Robyn advises high-EQ executives and leaders at Fortune 500 companies, as well as elite performers in entrepreneurship, sports, and entertainment. She is sought after for her ability to meet people where they are—and for her discernment in navigating the intersection of ambition, identity, and calling.

Her work is delivered through private retainers, intensives, keynote addresses, corporate trainings, and small group labs. Outside of her practice, she is an advocate and steward for wild horses, and can most often be found hiking the red rocks of Sedona with her husband of ten years and their goldendoodle, Cooper Mack.

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