The co-hosts discuss an article that Gini wrote for Spin Sucks that looks at 6 reasons that agency owners have trouble scaling. The conversation includes lots of actionable ideas -- despite Chip's best efforts to sidetrack things as he struggles to remember high school science basics in making an analogy. Reason #1: You Don't Have a Business Plan Reason #2: You Can't Break Free from Client Work Reason #3: Operating In Chaos Reason #4: Freakin' Technology! Who Can Keep Up? Reason #5: Not Understanding the Whole "Measurement" Thing Reason #6: You Lose Focus Agency owners are entrepreneurs and Gini notes that tends to come with a certain level of stubbornness. Or as Chip put it: "There's great similarity between a toddler and an entrepreneur." The pair try to help owners break out of this tendency to find solutions and help them scale.